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So far pretty good. That is after only two days so far. We’ll see how it goes over the longer haul.
It has selections for the various types of heads. It also adjusts the timing of schedule based on sun exposure, head type, slope – some of the trouble I was having with the Orbit. For Turf it has Rotor, Fixed and Rotary Nozzle. For drip mister, bubbler, emitter, drip line. For my 1-2 GPH droppers I actually selected mister. The emitter selection yielded about a two hour runtime, which I thought was way too much. Another thing I noticed but may be just unique to me, I found a much larger variety of personal weather stations to select from. I actually found one less than a mile from my house, down my street actually, which the closest with Orbit was over two miles away. I have the Rachio hooked up with a master valve and also a rain sensor (the orbit was similarly connected).
I did a catch-cup test and found that the application rate default on my head selections was much different than the empirical measurement. Rotary nozzles defaulted to 0.7 in/hr but my actual application rate was more like 0.5 in/hr. The same was true of the rotors. The default was 1.0 in/hr and I measured 0.6 in/hr. Changing the default value to the measured value was just as easy as with the Orbit. I am still trying to work out whether I want the device to control cycle/soak modes for the zones that have some slope or if I want to manually specify runtime and order. Initially I am letting the device decide and I’ll watch for signs of excessive runoff. Also, I have an area served by three zones but it is relatively flat – so I’m checking the overlap to see if that creates any runoff.
Again, I like the orbit tech support dashboard and all the information it provides in a very concise and easily digested form. I haven’t found anything like that for the Rachio as yet. But, if things continue to go well I don’t know that I’ll need that. I went to that dashboard more to understand what the orbit was doing and trying to figure out why what it was doing didn’t make sense.
The biggest challenge so far was connecting the Rachio to my wifi. Apparently, there is a bug when using an iPhone 11 Pro. When I switched to my iPad it was smooth like butter but I probably struggled for about 20 minutes before switching.
Well, that’s all I have for now. I’m sure I’ll know more over the next few weeks as it is May in Colorado so we’ll probably have some snow, hail and 80 degree days. ?
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Fully understand the desire not to throw money down the drain! I resisted as long as I could. Having much more money invested in my landscaping ($XX,000+) than the controllers, I felt I had to switch or I would have to watch my lawn daily or like has been mentioned switch to manual watering – which defeats the purpose. It is incredible how Unsupported these products are! Personally for me, since this is the third issue over the years that I have owned the controller that appears it will take several weeks, if not months to resolve, my fun meter is pegged!
Although my Rachio experience is short, there are a couple of things that Rachio doesn’t have that Orbit has: 1) The detailed information presented on techsupport.orbitbhyve.com – however that led me to understanding a shortcoming with the ET calculations the orbit system performs 2) The catch-cup integration in the Bhyve app to determine distribution efficiency and application rates – although this capability can be found on the web as well it was nice to have it at my fingertips.
While realizing this is not the suggested primary support forum, given how useless their support line is it would be nice if they would just acknowledge the posts here in the forum. But a month since @TSPEREZ initially posted his issue it is still crickets.
Well I guess that’s it for me. If either of you have additional questions about my Rachio experience, I’ll be happy to give you the good and bad of it. ?
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I texted the Customer Support folks. Basically, they told me if I have it set to Smart Watering, there is nothing they can do. They did give me a number to a product support group, if I wanted to chase this further.
Well, I chased right on down to Costco and bought a Rachio Gen 3. It doesn’t have the details that are available with the tech support site from Orbit but appears to generate a schedule that makes sense and accounts for slope and sun exposure. These were items, for me, that weren’t working as expected along with the “Null” zone/station names and unclear watering forecast. I hope you all are able to resolve these issues with Orbit!
Also, another interesting aside. I went to the Orbit products page to leave a review. Interestingly enough, it won’t accept a review indicating that not enough people have entered reviews as yet. Hard to believe as long as the Bhyve indoor/outdoor has been on the market not a single review is posted???? That should have been our first clue!
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I am seeing many of these same errors.
For example, of the seven (7) zones with grass, two have a high degree of slope (7-12%), but the app, or the server software computes the same standard run time and max time to runoff as the essentially flat zones (0-3% slope). Soil, sprinkler type, plant material all yield the same watering time (15 min) which cannot be correct.
Drilling into a forecasted cycle from the calendar does not show Beginning moisture, expected rainfall, irrigation added to arrive at a computed moisture balance from that forecasted cycle. However, when I look at an historical cycle all the moisture balance data is displayed.
All zone names are null when viewed through the calendar.
I haven’t experienced the forecast multiple cycles but run only one cycle problem as yet this year. However, I did have that problem last season and @stephen was able to correct it.
I also have the ‘next watering’ as not scheduled even though the calendar clearly shows that zone – with the name ‘null’ – is scheduled.
In general, whatever changes have been made with the app and the server software, the resulting calculations and experience has regressed.
My experience with the support line has been similar as well. The expertise is not there to understand, much less address, the problems identified here. The fact that the original post is almost three Weeks old is troubling as well. With me tagging on hopefully someone will look into these issues.
Thanks!Spread the love!September 24, 2019 at 9:54 am in reply to: Moisture Balance Below Zero / Waters Once Everyday #78146
Absolutely, if that will help sort this out.Spread the love!September 24, 2019 at 3:03 am in reply to: Moisture Balance Below Zero / Waters Once Everyday #78118
Anything??Spread the love!September 14, 2019 at 9:13 am in reply to: Moisture Balance Below Zero / Waters Once Everyday #78062
Any updates on this topic? It is continuing to forecast multiple cycles but executing only one Every Day. If an answer/fix doesn’t come soon I’ll have to toss this thing as I cannot afford water bills created by the way it is operating.
Please help!Spread the love!August 29, 2019 at 6:10 am in reply to: Moisture Balance Below Zero / Waters Once Everyday #78017
It updated the ET after it finished the cycle scheduled for 2AM. Then promptly rescheduled the 8PM and 10PM cycles to occur tomorrow along with a 1:26AM cycle. This will mean that except for six days (due to received rain and a couple of manual cycles I ran to try and eliminate the Moisture Balance at Zero issue) the timer will have run one cycle every morning for the month of August. While my lawn seems to be doing well, I am sure my pocket book won’t be when my I receive my next water bill. ?
As I stated in the OP, I don’t think this is the way it is supposed to be working – and from the forecast perspective neither does the timer as it consistently forecasts a schedule of multiple cycles with 2-4 days of separation between forecasted watering – only to water one cycle per day.
I am hoping you and your Server developer(s) are honing in on an answer. While I know it is impossible to accurately predict a resolution time. Some indication on that would be helpful in setting my expectations.
Regards,Spread the love!August 29, 2019 at 2:56 am in reply to: Moisture Balance Below Zero / Waters Once Everyday #78016
Thanks for looking into this. I can see in the event log that a few different updates occurred. However, tonight the timer didn’t connect after midnight – like normal – I assume for the weather ‘look back’. So the ET for the day is way off as it is using the reference ET not actual (.16 vs .22). We’ll see if it only does one of the forecasted three cycles again today.
On another note, why do all the dates in the event log show as ‘invalid date’?Spread the love!
Good news! On your computational skils and the catch cup results exposing the coverage variations. When I did the catch cup test I saw coverage issues as well. Most of mine were correct by either raising the sprinkler head heights or orientations back to more vertical.Spread the love!
That’s a good question. I’m surprised no one has responded. But in thinking about this, wouldn’t a catch-cups test capture the application rates and thereby ‘tune’ the system? Idk, just a thought.Spread the love!July 25, 2018 at 6:58 pm in reply to: Weather consistently wrong; Moisture and other updates #5173
Thanks for your response. I was trying to get clarification on the times that I can expect the details for weather to be correct. And it sounds like at only midnight. Is that midnight local time??
As far as the temperature displayed in the app, I’m guessing that is midnight as well.
Sounds like I should only look at ET/rainfall and other values for the previous day.
I was expecting more “real-time” especially whenever current rainfall is considered. With the way it works – looking at daily rainfall at midnight – then a rain sensor is absolutely required to avoid watering during the rain. I understand that at midnight it will look back and recalculate which might initiate a rain delay at that point. Unfortunately, in my case, that could be 4 hours after watering began.
One last question. Are the schedules keep on your servers and then uploaded to the timers? Or do the timers calculate the scheduled and download to your servers? Trying to understand the failure modes if a) my internet is down. B) your servers are down. Or both.
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Can you update my firmware as well?
Currently on debug 0010
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